Ralph Pennel |
Interview
with Somerville Publisher, Poet, Professor Ralph Pennel
With Doug
Holder
Ralph
Pennel, like many Somerville residents I know, has many creative outlets. He
brings his creative flair to the classroom at Bunker Hill Community College; he
is the fiction editor of a well-regarded online publication the “Midway
Journal” and he is a published poet and fiction writer. I recently spoke to
Pennel on my Somerville Public TV show
“Poet to Poet: Writer to Writer.”
Doug Holder:
Since we last sat down for an interview a couple of years ago, a lot has
changed for you. You are now a lecturer at Bunker Hill Community College. How
has the teaching experience been for you, and do the students differ in any way
from the Midwest where you taught for many years?
Ralph
Pennel: My experience—teaching World
Literature at Bunker Hill—has been great. I am always surprised by the
experience the students bring to the classroom. The discussions are always
lively—it is obvious that they are working towards something.
Many are
working to transfer to a four year school. And their efforts to make that
happen in terms of how they prepare themselves for class are apparent. A larger
percentage of my students in the Boston, than say the Midwest, come prepared
and have fewer excuses. At least in the classes I teach they are more than
willing to participate.
DH: You told
me that the Midway Journal, which you
are the fiction editor for, has been redesigned. How does it differ from the
past?
RP: Anything
on the internet has got a built destruct button in terms of looks and
functionality. When we first went live in the fall of 2007 our site was very
indicative of sites that were going up at that time. And if course if you don’t
make any changes to your site it looks outdated. So when we redesigned the site
we cleared up some of the functionality issues. There were certain problems
with navigating the site. The new site makes things easier. The site just looks
newer. The person we hired really had her thumb on what was current. Assuming
we are around the next two or three years, we will do it again. We are in the
process of growing. We brought in new fiction editors. We have an intern to
help with Facebook and Twitter.
DH: Your new poetry manuscript is titled: “The
World is Less Perfect for Dying In.” Tell us
a bit about this.
RP: The
manuscript is broken into two sections. The themes are loss, rebirth, literally
and figuratively. I am grateful to the Cervena Barva Press for agreeing to
publish it.
DH: Has your
Midwestern sensibility been jaded by your exposure to the Northeast?
RP:
Sometimes I forget that I really have been in the East Coast for four and a
half years, and that I lived in the Midwest for most of my life. I don’t know
if I truly fit in in the Midwest. I tried to be a little more straightforward
than folks usually are there—so that brought conflicts. But still people easily
identify me as a Midwesterner. Everything in the Midwest is planned on a
grid—so it is not as conducive to the out-of-the box creative thinking. When
you live on a grid you don’t really need to know how to get places. In New
England it is more random type of lifestyle.
DH: I read a
poem of yours “Nighthawks” Why do think so many poets are influenced by the
paintings of Edward Hopper?
RP: I think
it is the paradox that is reflected in his work. He uses bright colors often.
The thing he does is set his characters in isolation-- the isolation of the
American image. I think that is an interesting idea for poets. There is also an
ironic aspect to Nighthawks—it has an everyman level to it. It is heartland
America—with failed expectations.
DH: I find
in your recent work a premonition of death, and the pull of gravity. Dark stuff—are you a brooding bard?
RP: I take
things hard—I am a poet after all (Smiles). I am emotional. No one is
interested in poems where things go well. There is always hope in my work
though—after all there is always birth and renewal.
Leaving nothing to chance, we start the day
by sharing our only surviving dreams.
Mine is simple. The two of us driving nowhere
with little regard for the drive.
In yours, we are rowing. Taking our time.
Taking turns at the oars.
We make nothing more of them than that,
that we have shared them.
You roll away from me, hand dropping
against the box spring,
as if to usher this bed into motion, into
one last feat of greatness though nothing on it stirs.
While we lie here, storm clouds
settle in above us,
rain gathers in their sagging bellies, felled cotton seed
invades every grassless patch of ground below.
I half expect to find this bed covered too,
mistake loose down against my pillow
for some ambitious seed that made it through
the screen beside this bed, seeking some higher,
safer place to land, who knows what falling is,
how it ends where no light reaches and never has.
Not even in the highest noonday sun when
the shadows are but charcoal blemishes no bigger than a sigh.
So much goes unsaid between us now.
The day passes us by slowly, drifts over
the trenches where we lay, the hours ahead
still unfulfilled except by all we cannot manage
****** From the masspoetry.org website
“Planning Our Departure” by Ralph Pennel
by sharing our only surviving dreams.
Mine is simple. The two of us driving nowhere
with little regard for the drive.
In yours, we are rowing. Taking our time.
Taking turns at the oars.
We make nothing more of them than that,
that we have shared them.
You roll away from me, hand dropping
against the box spring,
as if to usher this bed into motion, into
one last feat of greatness though nothing on it stirs.
While we lie here, storm clouds
settle in above us,
rain gathers in their sagging bellies, felled cotton seed
invades every grassless patch of ground below.
I half expect to find this bed covered too,
mistake loose down against my pillow
for some ambitious seed that made it through
the screen beside this bed, seeking some higher,
safer place to land, who knows what falling is,
how it ends where no light reaches and never has.
Not even in the highest noonday sun when
the shadows are but charcoal blemishes no bigger than a sigh.
So much goes unsaid between us now.
The day passes us by slowly, drifts over
the trenches where we lay, the hours ahead
still unfulfilled except by all we cannot manage
the strength to save, by the rain, cold and hard,
falling from the sky to the earth where we wait.
falling from the sky to the earth where we wait.
We insist on waging our losses against an hour more
of sleep, against facing our certain departure from this room,
of sleep, against facing our certain departure from this room,
or from any room just like this where we may have landed
seeking shelter from all we can’t possibly begin to begin.
seeking shelter from all we can’t possibly begin to begin.
****** From the masspoetry.org website
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