Interview with Poet Ben Berman: A Bard
who goes beyond the immediate apparent
Interview with Doug Holder
Recently I had the pleasure to
interview poet Ben Berman. Berman is a thin, wiry man—who sports an
amused smile and doesn't take himself to seriously. He has the look of a curious man. I can picture him closely examining a leaf or an ant with his children for an extended length of time.
Berman’s first book, Strange
Borderlands (Able Muse Press, 2012), won the Peace Corps Award for
Best Book of Poetry and was a finalist for the Massachusetts Book
Awards. His second book is Figuring in the Figure, forthcoming from
Able Muse Press in 2017. He has received awards from the New England
Poetry Club and fellowships from the Massachusetts Cultural Council
and Somerville Arts Council. He is the poetry editor at Solstice
Literary Magazine and teaches in the Boston area, where he lives with
his wife and daughters Doug Holder interviewed Berman on his Poet to
Poet Writer to Writer TV show on Somerville Community Media TV
Doug Holder: Ben—you defected from
Somerville to the environs of Newton, Mass. Why?
Ben Berman: My wife lived in
Somerville for 10 years. We dated for four years, and lived together
in Somerville. We lived in Teele Square for a while. After we got
married and had our daughter we moved to Newton.
DH:Is Somerville a good place to reside
for a poet?
BB Somerville is a great place to be a
poet. There is such creative energy. The Somerville Arts Council is
such a good organization. It is very supportive. The city is very
diverse.
DH: In your new collection “Figuring
in the Figure” you explore the facade of the immediately apparent.
In the suburbs—where you live now-- behind the broad and manicured
lawns—lurks the rawness—the unruly entanglements of the world.
BB: I think of this book as a follow up
to my other book, “Strange Borderlands.” It is based around my
experience with the Peace Corps in Zimbabwe and what it was like
being a stranger in a strange land.
“Figuring....” deals with a very
different place—the small—local life-- but the rawness exists in
this seemingly placid environment.
DH: Some say you have to be a
wild—Charles Bukowski- like figure to be a poet—how does
domesticity suit you?
BB: In some ways it helps—in terms of
giving me some routines and rituals to keep me writing. There are
many complexities—entanglements being a father and a husband. Small
moments of domestic life are entry ways into broader ideas.
DH: It has been said we detach
ourselves to feel more fully. Do you detach yourself when writing?
BB: Writing requires detachment to feel
the experience fully and write about it.
DH: How have your children affected
your writing? Does their sense of wonder ignite yours?
BB: Entirely. My kids see the world
entirely differently. They could spend a hour just looking at an ant.
I try to see through my kids eyes. It gets me out of the “routine”
of seeing.
DH: Tell me about your involvement
with Solstice Literacy Magazine.
BB: It is an online magazine that has
been around for 8 or 9 years. Lee Hope started it. It was connected
to Pine Manor College. We produced two print anthologies. It is a
wonderful journal. On staff we have folks like Regie Gibson, Richard
Hoffman, Danielle Georges, and many others.
DH: Why do you write poetry?
BB: It is a centering practice. It is a
ritual I need to engage in or I won't feel right. It allows me to
slow down and connect with my life. I love to play with language, and
find meaning in the world. I get up around 3AM every morning—check
the Web, have a cup of coffee, and free write. I go where it directs
me.
DH: You teach at Brookline High, in
Brookline, MA. It is a help or hindrance?
BB: To teach is very demanding—so it
sort of makes me make time for my writing. I am lucky to have bright
and creative kids in my classes. I love to introduce kids to
reading—and they introduce me to new writers—that can only help.
-- Ben Berman
THE UNDERSIDE
My friend confides in me how his wife cheated—
well, not cheated, but sent racy photos
of herself to other men—how she created
well, not cheated, but sent racy photos
of herself to other men—how she created
some online profile with a phony
name—Lady Falcon—and how he stumbled
upon this one day when he used her phone
name—Lady Falcon—and how he stumbled
upon this one day when he used her phone
to order a pizza. They’d been so stable,
he tells me, maybe they needed this breach
to save their marriage from growing stale.
he tells me, maybe they needed this breach
to save their marriage from growing stale.
In front of us, a hawk’s perched on a branch,
calmly pecking at a squirrel’s entrails.
We’re sitting side-by-side on the bench
calmly pecking at a squirrel’s entrails.
We’re sitting side-by-side on the bench
but see different things through the tangled
crosscutting of limbs in front of us. My friend
mentions that he’ll hide some of the details
crosscutting of limbs in front of us. My friend
mentions that he’ll hide some of the details
from his analyst because the man can find
subtext even when they chat about sports—
which makes me feel bad about my own feigned
subtext even when they chat about sports—
which makes me feel bad about my own feigned
attention—how my mind spirals and spurts
like a squirrel getting chased up a tree,
then scrambles to piece together the excerpts—
like a squirrel getting chased up a tree,
then scrambles to piece together the excerpts—
it’s just that I’m tired of the puppetry…
my friend says …some childhood desire…
he adds …while residing on my property—
my friend says …some childhood desire…
he adds …while residing on my property—
but what an impotent word—resides—
just hearing it makes me long for nude
photos of his wife. On the underside
just hearing it makes me long for nude
photos of his wife. On the underside
of the branch, now—directly under
the hawk—is another squirrel, his floppy
tail pointed stiff—this must be duende,
the hawk—is another squirrel, his floppy
tail pointed stiff—this must be duende,
I think—ready to spring at the slightest flap
of a wing. How should I have reacted?
my friend asks, as the squirrel fixes to flip.
of a wing. How should I have reacted?
my friend asks, as the squirrel fixes to flip.
-- Ben Berman
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