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Interview with Poet Myles 
Gordon: A poet who explores what it means to be human.
 
With Doug Holder
  At our table in back of the Bloc 11 Cafe in Union Square, Somerville I asked Poet Myles Gordon what 
he felt it meant to be human-- a theme his poetry is deeply involved with . 
Gordon hesitated and seemed to be wrestling with the question. He finally 
opined: " We have great thoughts and deep emotions but we have to live in the 
real world, pay taxes, feed parking meters--  all this at the same time."  Gordon is a poet 
of the profound and banal--and he is indeed a very human poet.
 Myles Gordon is a writer and 
teacher living in Newton, Massachusetts. Prior to teaching, Myles worked as a 
television producer, earning four New England Emmy Awards for his work at 
Boston's ABC Television affiliate. He also co-produced the independent 
documentary Touching Lives: Portraits of Deaf blind People. He holds a 
Master of Education from The University of Massachusetts, in Boston, and a 
Master of Fine Arts from The Vermont College of Fine Arts. He has published 
poetry in several periodicals and is a past honorable mention for the AWP Intro 
Award in poetry. He is winner of the Grolier Poetry Prize, and the Helen Kay 
Chapbook Competition from Evening Street Press. His latest collection of poetry 
is Inside The Splintered Wood  ( Tebot Bach)
Doug Holder:  Myles--you worked for Channel 5 
in Boston, an ABC affiliate for many years. Can you tell me about your Emmy 
Award winning documentary Touching Lives: Portraits of Deafblind People?  
Deaf and Blind people have heightened senses of smell and touch to 
compensate for what they lack with their other senses. Do you think they are similar to poets in that 
poets are viewed as having heightened senses as well?
Myles Gordon: That is an interesting 
question. I think poets have some sort of innate heightened awareness of the 
world either internally or externally. I know for myself there are things that I 
focus on or obsess over. I have themes that keep coming back that I am keenly 
aware of.
In terms of the documentary--I was working at 
Channel 5, but I made my own independent documentary. It concerned  a number of 
folks that were deaf and blind. I got into doing this because of my wife. She is 
an interpreter for the deaf. I met a lot of deaf and blind people through her. I 
thought it was a very fascinating world. I wanted to explore it. We profiled 4 
individuals and one couple We followed these deaf and blind people through their 
lives. And we watched the challenges they faced. It took about 3 years to 
make.
DH:  You are a child of Holocaust 
survivors?
MG:  Well-my mother came over from Poland in 
1938 to the States with her small immediate family and everybody who was left behind was 
killed in the Holocaust. They were from the town of Brestlitousk--that was part 
of Poland at the time. It was a shtetl. There was a large Jewish population, 
and it was a real hotbed of Jewish learning, and had been for hundreds of 
years.This is where my mother's people were from. My father was born in this 
country, but he was a combat veteran of WW ll. He was involved with the 
liberation of the concentration camps. He was involved in the liberation of 
Buchenwald. So I grew up hearing a lot about the Holocaust.
DH: I have talked to other authors who have 
shared your experience--it gets into your blood. It gives you a certain view of 
the world. I remember interviewing Alan Kaufman, the editor of  the Outlaw 
Bible of American Literature. He was a child of Holocaust survivors. He said 
this left him with a legacy of pessimism, paranoia--and he always felt his very 
survival was constantly on the line. Has this entered your work--your 
sensibility?
MG: Yeah. It is a big part of my identity- 
and it is a big part of what I write. It has been widely accepted that my own 
family, before the death camps, were led to a certain location where they laid 
down in pits and they were all shot to death. Every now and then I think about 
that and how disturbing and angering  all of this is and how it has created a sense 
of grief.  
DH: In your chapbook Recite Every Day 
you deal with the illness and the subsequent death of your mother. Did you 
ever think that you might have exploited your mother's misfortune for your 
art?
MG Sure. I wrestled with that concept.. I 
find that it is in my nature to wrestle with every concept.  Hey--that was the 
reality at hand. I have been writing a long time. I never did one of those MFA 
programs until I was in my 40's.  I was doing a low-residency on top of my job. 
At the time my mom went into hospice care. I was writing prolifically for this 
program and this was what was going on in my life. So I went with it. I think it 
was a loving tribute. I had to write it. I didn't have a choice.
DH:  In your poem  Passing another client 
at the psychiatrist's office  you write about your embarrassment when you 
pass a fellow patient outside your therapist's office: " That's why we turn/ 
away to avoid in each other/ the truth of our inadequacy:/we must come to this 
place/ not our homes not our wives not our/lovers not our friends not 
ourselves."
MG: In the poem you reference  I was actually 
leaving the psychiatrist's office--walking upstairs, when I passed a client 
coming from the office. And this is a very awkward moment--when neither of us 
look at each other because of embarrassment. I wanted to capture that. In that 
situation I am communicating inadequacy because here I am a grown man and feel 
like I should deal with my life without a crutch.
DH: There was another poem where you came 
outside from an appointment with a Rabbi and cried at your car, and the relief 
you felt at your psychiatrist office was short lived. It seems there is only a 
short respite from the maelstrom of life?
MG: I think that is a good observation. 
Everything is good for a time. Then we go back to the down swing. A lot of my 
poems go in that direction. Even with my poems I never feel they are good 
enough.
DH: The poem is never finished just 
abandoned, huh?
MG: That's true. You say to a poem "we are 
done"--and then you have to send it out to the world.
DH:  I like your poem Here 
Comes the Sun in your new collection Inside The Splintered Wood . Your father tried to instill a love 
of Benny Goodman in you, and you tried to instill a love of George Harrison in 
your kids.  Using music is a good literary device--here it explores the 
continuum.
MG I just got into this thing where certain 
songs got into my head. And from there poems would spring up. And Here Comes 
the Sun is such n lovely and optimistic song. The music inspired me to 
create the poem. To my kids the Beatles are archaic--the same way I thought my 
dad's 78s were. I tried to explain to my kids about the importance of the music. 
Music and poetry are intimately related. I turn to music the same way I turn to 
poetry.
MG: In a blurb on your back cover of your new 
book it states that your poetry tells you what means to be human. What does it 
mean?
DH: For me being human consists of 
randomness, illogicality --and we take ourselves too seriously. We have great thoughts 
and deep emotions but we have to live in the real world--pay taxes, feed parking 
meters--all at the same time. One time I went to see a Rabbi. And I had all 
these deep questions. He was running a summer camp for kids. We had an appointment to 
talk. But there was a problem with the buses transferring the kids--so he 
excused himself because he was on the phone. When it came down to it it was 
these kids' safety that was more important than the profound conversation I had envisioned.
Here 
Comes the Sun 
I wonder, when 
my two sons
totter into the 
kitchen bleary eyed
and I am 
listening to Abbey 
Road
while packing 
their school lunches,
if the music is 
as exotic to them
as my father’s 
music was to me
those times he 
would turn on the 78
or the station 
he liked,
taken to a world 
of Kay Starr
and Benny 
Goodman; and sometimes
even dance a few 
steps
around the 
living room
and I could 
smell his cologne,
the tobacco on 
his shirt.
Do my children, 
already able
to click and 
drag MP3s, see me
as I saw him - a 
man with 
his own life and 
music before
I came along, 
who had a father
I never met who 
shaped him,
just as my 
father shaped me?
I spread the 
peanut butter and jelly
and wrap the 
sandwiches in
cellophane, put 
in the carrots and chips
and cartons of 
chocolate milk
listening to 
“Here Comes The Sun”
and tell my boys 
that that’s George Harrison
and no one ever 
played guitar like that before
and no one will 
ever play guitar like that again.
- Reprinted with 
permission from Tebot 
Bach